• Ich bin fast sicher das die "Rennfahrerwagen" auch die Prototypen sind. Wäre ja schlüßig, die konnten die Wagen auch gleich testen.



    Interessant ist was in dem Movendi Angebot (danke für die Bilder) geschrieben wird von über 60 CS, dies dürfte wirklich nicht stimmen.



    Wie seht ihr die Wagen preislich derzeit ? Der Movendi Wagen war mit fast 40t angeschrieben. Was ist mit den Rennfahrerwagen ?

  • Danke für die Bilder. When sie anderen haben...


    Es gibt keinen RHD CS, aber es gibt 42 Sport Equipment aka SE. Die SE sind die Mekanik des CS mit ein spezial Ausrüstung.


    wp0zzz92zjs845068 war ohne Schiebedach gemacht und hat ein jetzt... I mag dieses Auto nicht §-)


    Die Weiss ist ein des 5 Rennfahrer Autos. Das Aufkleber ist nicht original. Das ist das Auto dass Ich mehr Bilder haben will.


    wp0zzz92zjs845001 zu wp0zzz92zjs845060 waren nicht gebaut. Das erst Auto für 1988 ist 5061.
    I bin sicher.


    Der Besitzer von 5070 arbeitete bei Porsche und stimmt mit mir.


    In der PET gibt est auch kein 5001 zu 5060.


    Ein CS ist nicht 180 kg leichter as ein S4. 100kg ist mehr plausible.

  • 1987 Prototype Porsche 928 club sport


    Contributor: Derek Bell


    http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1131.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1132.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1133.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1134.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1135.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1136.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1137.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1138.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p1139.jpg http://www.928.org.uk/images/p11310.jpg


    Derek Bell was given this 928 by Porsche AG, he was and still is, one of their racing drivers.


    Derek does not know alot about the car. He was apparently reluctant to take the car because it was LHD and in fact initially refused it. Approximately a year later he asked about a white 928 sitting under a tree to be told "oh that's your 928". He then accepted the car and brought it back and registered the car in the UK. It had covered approx 20,000 miles - although Derek had a new "mph" speedo installed.


    Derek knows it was one of 4 unique 928's built. All 4 were given to Porsche racing drivers. All 4 were white and LHD. The car is a 1987 model year prototype S4. This is identified by the VIN number and the folding rear spoiler (which was only fitted to 1987 model year S4's). He was told the car had uprated suspension and engine. The car was also lightened.


    Derek knows that one of his colleague's blew up the engine in his 928. He would complain to Porsche that the car was incorrectly geared because "he would hit the rev limiter in top gear" on the Autobahn. Apparently this was 185mph - though we do not know if this was indicated or actual speed. (And we cannot work this out as the production Club Sport had 2 changes over a standard S4 - lower gearing and a higher rev limit - and we do not know if this changes were applied to these 4 cars).


    The car features 16" forged light alloy wheels identical to those fitted to the production Club Sport / SE / Early 89 GT cars. The car has no sunroof, no rear blinds and no rear wiper which is also consistent with a CS. However it has a passenger side mirror and full leather interior which the production CS did not have (although the SE did have a passenger mirror).


    Whilst Porsche have not officially identified these 4 cars as prototype Club Sports, it seems pretty certain from the VIN number that this is what they are.


    Derek was until recently the only driver of the 4 to have kept his 928. He kept it with his other ultra rare Porsche - a red 924 Carrera GTS. He has covered approx 42,000 miles in the car before selling it.


    Without a doubt it is the rarest and most unique 928 in the UK.


    Andy Elvers, 5th July 1999.

  • Derek Bell, Porsche Hero: 911 & Porsche World teaser


    by John on January 7, 2010</ABBR>




    This month’s 911 and Porsche World magazine features another Glynn/Lipman UK classic: a piece on Derek Bell and his 928 Club Sport. Thanks to Derek’s hectic so-called retirement, the job took me a few months to set up, but it was well worth the wait: the experience was 100% fantastic from start to finish.


    http://www.johndglynn.com/wp-c…rsche-World-Feature-2.jpg


    At the time of shooting, the car was owned by Justin Pressland, but it has since sold to a Belgian enthusiast. Partly a shame as Justin was the perfect owner: an outright aficionado of the model, who regularly used and enjoyed the car. The 928 has gone to good hands, however, and I expect to see it out and about on the European classic Porsche scene in 2010.


    Jamie came up with the idea for the feature’s opening layout, and I love it. It’s a low shot of Derek looking wistfully at the car – the perfect look, captured in one take. The picture is spread over two pages and brings car and driver together perfectly. This is the beauty of working with a photo genius: get there, have some fun, the trained eye sees the BIG picture and the results are magic. Jamie also took some great panning shots though the trees around our location, but the mag didn’t run them. I think they deserve to be seen so I’ll blog a few here later.


    http://www.johndglynn.com/wp-c…Porsche-World-Feature.jpg


    As for Derek: what hasn’t already been said? Being a rally fan, I was never that aware of circuit racing as a kid, although I did watch a lot of the Le Mans round ups over the years. As a five-time Le Mans winner, Derek is obviously a driver par excellence, but also a very entertaining guy to spend time with, and certainly deserving of his revered status within the Porsche community.


    Here’s a brilliant bit of video illustrating the genetic connection between man and machine. Ignore the 917 in the title: this is DB in the 956 at Le Mans in 1983. Observe and absorb the awesomeness of that speed along the Mulsanne Straight: a big part of why I found it such a privilege to work with Derek. We had lots of fun with the great man, and are aiming to do more with DB later this year.

  • Hi Samuel,


    Yes, of course, no problem. When I popped over to meet John (Speake) last time, we hooked up Adrian who updated his list of SE's as well:


    VIN WPOZZZ92ZJS842031
    Engine 81J0177


    According to Marc Noack from Porsche Classic and my birth-cert, the car is completely numbers matched.


    Loe Bank Motors rebuilt the top end of the engine after a cam-belt failure in 06, though Chris Sanderson confirmend me that he conserved virtually everything like the genuine SE cams etc., except the heads which are now from a newer model. Main bearings are new as well. I uprated the car with a catalytist due to the odd German tax to save some quids. :)


    Cheers


    Marc

    Cheers


    Marc


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