Is it very unusual to set a "limit" to a workshop ?

  • Hello, I have chosen a workshop for my electrical problem. Porsche - specialist for many years, successful in 24 h - race (including victory in Le Mans and class wins) and very involved in historic motorsports.

    The hourly wage is 153 € gross. - Since we all know that you never know how long the search in the electrical system can last, I want to avoid, despite ample reserves for it, that the whole thing directly completely escalates, cost-wise.

    Is it totally unusual, if I let first in writing fix that first (up to the further discussion) first only "release up to 1,000 € is given ?

    Even if I would have theoretically a multiple for it, I want to brake perhaps first something.

    Is it advisable to proceed in this way ?

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    Gruß, Thorsten

    928, Bj Februar`78. , deutsches Modell, Schalter, Tabakmet., Leder, Klima, Tempomat,

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  • Hello Winkler,

    of course this can also be an own goal!

    If the workshop finds the error after 5 minutes, but 5h repair charged, then you're happy and are still screwed.

    There was a workshop test not too long ago, where something like this was pulled through by VW and Mercedes authorized workshops ...

    Only one fuse was defective, but supposedly a wiring harness was exchanged.

    I don't want to accuse the workshop or anyone else of anything - but there are black sheep everywhere.

    On the other hand, it could be that the mechanic stops 5 minutes "before the solution" because the limit is exhausted and you pay 1000€ and the error is not fixed.

    Couldn't you find a solution for your problem here in the forum?

    What is the problem?

    Greetings Stefan

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    alte Porsches:
    911S Ex US '76 mit Umbau auf 3,2l 207PS (Motor 930/21 mit Getriebe 915/68) - Silbermetallic, Schiebedach

    911SC Targa Ex US '81 3,0l 179PS (Motor 930/16 mit Getriebe 915/63) - Weinrotmetallic

    944/1 Targa '84 2,5l 163PS - Platinmetallic (bis 03/2017)

  • Hello, I have chosen a workshop for my electrical problem. Porsche - specialist for many years, successful in 24 h - race (including victory in Le Mans and class wins) and very involved in historic motorsports.

    The hourly wage is 153 € gross. - Since we all know that you never know how long the search in the electrical system can last, I want to avoid, despite ample reserves for it, that the whole thing directly completely escalates, cost-wise.

    Is it totally unusual, if I let first in writing fix that first (up to the further discussion) first only "release up to 1,000 € is given ?

    Even if I would have theoretically a multiple for it, I want to brake perhaps first something.

    Is it advisable to proceed in this way ?

    You have really unusual problems ;) In principle I give also always releases with a limit and everything which is over it I want to be informed by telephone. That is completely legitimate. Especially when it comes to a Porsche you get a price premium right away. As Stefan already wrote, if the error is found quickly and you have to do it with an evil workshop that then skims the limit anyway, you are the fool. But you should not always paint the devil on the wall. Reputable workshops do not work like that. Live and let live should be the motto there, i.e. a satisfied customer will come back later.

    Greeting Roy :wink:

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  • Hello!

    A workshop with this hourly wage is already the wrong approach for the repair of an oldie. For E-problems there are surely also specialists, who look for errors in the electrical system for "normal" wages. Electronics in today's sense will hardly be installed.

    But such a limit is completely acceptable and reasonable.

    VG

    Hannes

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  • What reputation a workshop has in racing is irrelevant to your problem, except that it will be quite expensive. You need an old electric fox who knows the ins and outs, not a diagnostic equipment operator from the pit lane.

    Greetz

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    Nach 320'000 Spiegeleiern kann die Kantine nicht so schlecht gewesen sein!
    Harm Lagaay

    PS: Ich heisse nicht Greetz k:thinking:

  • ... and no diagnostic equipment operators from the pit lane.

    Greetz

    They are very active in historic ( ! ) racing and after my "house and yard workshop" fearfully chickened out, although they had already helped me with "normal" cars electrically, I would rather hire a "full professional" than someone who slips at the name "Porsche" immediately the heart in the pants.

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    Gruß, Thorsten

    928, Bj Februar`78. , deutsches Modell, Schalter, Tabakmet., Leder, Klima, Tempomat,

    Bumper der US - Ausführung, sonst original

  • What is the problem?

    Greetings Stefan

    Well, when I turn the ignition key, absolutely nothing happens ... Not even a control light goes on. - Despite new Bosch battery with 80 Ah.

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    Gruß, Thorsten

    928, Bj Februar`78. , deutsches Modell, Schalter, Tabakmet., Leder, Klima, Tempomat,

    Bumper der US - Ausführung, sonst original

  • Hello Thorsten,
    with me was (Porsche G-model Targa) the ground point on the body completely rusted.
    The 911 starts, but very poorly - constantly (after idle time) battery replaced because I thought it was due to the discharged battery.

    Then it did not start at all.

    I then identified the ground strap (battery :pfeil: body) as the culprit.
    When I tried to replace it, the grounding point on the body was torn off.

    With a new ground point (M8 bolt) and a new ground strap (22€) you only have to look at the key and the engine starts immediately...

    On my Audis (from that time) it is usually the electrical insert from the ignition lock. It's the same part as on the 996 - costs 12€ in the accessories, 35€ at Audi and 200€ at Porsche (the steering lock is still attached).

    Greetings Stefan

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    alte Porsches:
    911S Ex US '76 mit Umbau auf 3,2l 207PS (Motor 930/21 mit Getriebe 915/68) - Silbermetallic, Schiebedach

    911SC Targa Ex US '81 3,0l 179PS (Motor 930/16 mit Getriebe 915/63) - Weinrotmetallic

    944/1 Targa '84 2,5l 163PS - Platinmetallic (bis 03/2017)

  • They are very active in historic ( ! ) racing and after my "house and yard workshop" chickened out in fear, although they had already helped me with "normal" cars electrically, I would rather hire a "full professional" than someone whose heart immediately slips into his pants at the name "Porsche".

    Did you offer your home and yard workshop the cost ceiling as well? Looking for and, above all, finding such faults is a game of patience, luck and often takes a lot of time. If you then show the customer the fault, perhaps just a corroded area or some other small thing, there is often a lack of understanding that finding this fault simply took tens of hours.

    As a workshop, I would also chicken out, as I simply have no desire for such discussions.

    Greetz

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    Nach 320'000 Spiegeleiern kann die Kantine nicht so schlecht gewesen sein!
    Harm Lagaay

    PS: Ich heisse nicht Greetz k:thinking:

  • As a workshop, I would also chicken out, as I simply have no desire for such discussions.

    Greetz

    Sure, I also offered her the "cost ceiling". - That is unprofessional for me. If a workshop has "no desire" to repair cars, it should sell sausages ...

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    Gruß, Thorsten

    928, Bj Februar`78. , deutsches Modell, Schalter, Tabakmet., Leder, Klima, Tempomat,

    Bumper der US - Ausführung, sonst original

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