Gasket intercooler

Hello Ralf,

you probably mean this gasket?

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/liUAAOSwVqpeXZDG/$_57.JPG

I don't have a turbo, never seen it up close, but I did a quick search here:

https://www.pff.de/wcf/search-result/420379/?highlight=930+charge-airk%C3%BChler+gasket.

Probably not what you're looking for though, unfortunately. In the Pelican forum they have also discussed it, but could not find anything significantly new, except that the Yanks mount other intercoolers ...

Greeting, Thomas

Pure swag. No question about it. At 50€, such a part would be more than well paid, including lush production and storage costs. 300€ already border on usury.

One can confidently assume that with ordinary car parts a margin of at least 200% is on it...

Somewhere someone has asked the question of costs: If he wanted to build a car completely by himself and went to a friend with the complete parts list, he would pay three times the normal price. Body costs not yet included....

Porsche I think can charge even more because of the name. As long as it is paid for, it will stay that way. The market determines the price. As long as the quality of the parts is always right, I will grudgingly pay the price. After all, especially for the 911, there is a lively parts market with reproductions and repros, but sometimes very fluctuating quality ... and yes - logistics and storage space also cost ... On the other hand I have to speak up for Porsche: The air filter box for my US SC has been available but again original from Porsche and at a price of about 230€...three years ago...I had no longer expected and it pleased me all the more.

But you also have to look at it this way: The parts supply for the old 911 (here especially the G models) is simply outstanding. Both from Porsche itself and from other suppliers. Some owners of an old VAG have much more problems with the procurement of parts. And ask owners of old Mercedes Benz who need a new SBC brake....

If I were you, I would look for a replacement/tuning/3rd party intercooler that is plug'n'play or easily rebuildable and keep the original and store it.

Greetings Thomas

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You can safely assume that for ordinary car parts, there is a margin of at least 200% on it....

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A margin cannot be over 100% because it is a part of the whole, that is, a part of 100%. In your example, it would be a profit markup, which translates into a margin of about 67%.

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Regards

Gisbert

It's always nice to see the milkmaid calculations when it comes to spare parts. One looks at the material value, compares the prices with current parts and then leaves out about the nevertheless very own pricing.

Now one simply looks at the multitude of vehicle models and their entire range of spare parts. Also one should ask oneself then times, how many of these sometimes very rare parts then also can be sold, until they must be thrown away then also times, since also times rubber parts are over-aged.

Also the little storage space can make but not so much, the one small part. Only that the part may lie around for a few years.

The fact that these parts then have to be produced in relatively small batch sizes should then also be kept in mind, keyword set-up costs. It may well be that these set-up costs are many times higher than the pure part costs.

You should also ask yourself how the tools will look after 20, 30, 40 or more years and whether they will even fit on modern machines. Keeping old machines "alive" also costs money. At times, a new tool may have to be built and this is then also passed on to the smallest series.

You always have to look at the whole story, realistically. Then at least a large part of the costs are put into perspective.

But of course Porsche is absolutely barking up the wrong tree when it comes to many parts, which is almost indecent. But what is the alternative if the parts are not available anywhere else? Throw them away? Have them rebuilt? That's certainly cheaper...

How many manufacturers still supply spare parts for cars that are over 40 years old?

As long as the parts are bought ...

Greetz

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Quote from Schulisco

You can safely assume that for ordinary car parts, there is a margin of at least 200% on it....

Smart-ass mode "on

A margin cannot be over 100% because it is a part of the whole, that is, a part of 100%. In your example, it would be a profit markup, which translates into a margin of about 67%.

Smart-ass mode "off"

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Margin and replace with markup, ok?

Pilot69

All correct, I'm unfortunately not familiar with the subject. Objectively, I also fully agree with you. Live and let live, And yes - target costs, and as I had already written - warehouse & logistics also have a share. And it is also true that the tools are needed and the producers also need a certain output of production quantities to make it worthwhile. But as you also wrote - for some products the price markups are already brazen. And yes - I also wrote that thanks to Porsche as well as other suppliers the parts supply for the 911 is excellent. Last but not least, this was another reason for me to embark on the adventure "classic sports car from German production"...

The alternative is the same as before - keep it as long as possible, modernize it if necessary (e.g. chain tensioner from the 3.2) etc. and fall back on parts that are compatible with other vehicles. Or just create other, new solutions...

And 3D printing is also getting better and better and more manageable...hardly imaginable today. But today more and more (sheet metal) car bodies are glued instead of welded...